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Square deeps ? X2 for the Perfect Brood Nest ?
« on: March 13, 2016, 03:59:34 PM »
Back in the late 80's, I experimented with a set of square deep hive bodies.

It worked out to 13 frames per box with the frames spaced a bit further apart than 'normal'

spacing was just under 1-7/16 center to center as opposed to 'ideal' of 1-3/8.

I'm uncovering and setting up my Radial Arm Saw which has been buried in the back of the garage for about 15 years, so its time to start experimenting.

The theory is that a 20" (18-1/2 inside the box) by 19-1/4 high ( two deeps) brood area would allow a perfectly spherical brood nest which would be the ideal (maximum volume for minimum surface area to cover).

Thoughts ?    I'm fully prepared to have this Latest and Greatest Idea shot to pieces................

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Re: Square deeps ? X2 for the Perfect Brood Nest ?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2016, 04:32:12 PM »
SK : Are you going to be foundationless on this I have seen bees make a hive hanging on a limb and it was spherical. You are going to have to share pictures of this when it happens sound awesome.
P.S. If it works how will it be inspected?
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Re: Square deeps ? X2 for the Perfect Brood Nest ?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 05:44:28 PM »
I can't see any reason NOT to use standard frames with real foundation

Getting the top square box off and back on could be a real chore, when it's built out............I figure 80-90 pounds

Been thumbing thru some OLD bee books, and one of them suggested placing the top box with frames at right angles to bottom frames......that seems a bit off-the-wall in that ventilation would suffer...on the other hand, it might make for easier travel for the bees.

So many ideas so little time

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Re: Square deeps ? X2 for the Perfect Brood Nest ?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2016, 11:12:03 PM »
just need 2 small boxes to move frames into.
move frames not boxes much easier.

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Re: Square deeps ? X2 for the Perfect Brood Nest ? UPDATE
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2016, 03:00:02 PM »
Well, got the old Sears Radial Arm Saw set up and went searching for my 'good' fine-tooth 10" blade and Dado set

They have apparently gone WalkAbout since I last used them ( 1990 !! )

So since I had to hit home Depot anyway for lumber, a new 10" Carbide tipped fine-tooth and a new 8" Dado set.

the two boxes are done......had one side split a bit when I tightened down a screw on a slight warp.

But all in all, very pleased that I remembered enough cabinet-making stuff to get them made and squared up

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Re: Square deeps ? X2 for the Perfect Brood Nest ?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2016, 07:15:50 PM »
All I can say is Holy Crap !! That's the kind of stuff dreams are made of. Do you post any videos on U-Tube? I think you should start.
Good job, and keep up the good work.
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Re: Square deeps ? X2 for the Perfect Brood Nest ?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2016, 02:11:12 PM »
Here's a picture of the completed product.

Taking it to son Andy's this evening so grand-kids can paint it.

What better way to get them interested ?

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Re: Square deeps ? X2 for the Perfect Brood Nest ?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2016, 04:36:06 PM »
That will look pretty fine with hand prints and flowers on it. :) . At least that is what my Grand Kids would do to it.
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